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Harry Greb...
“A
Human Perpetual Motion Machine.”
By
Monte Cox
Boxing Historian
Fightworld.us
Harry Greb,
World Middleweight Boxing Champion 1923-1926, was the ever in your face
nightmare, the supreme swarming style fighter. Greb was nicknamed “The Human
Windmill” due to the constant flurries of punches he threw as well as the fast
pace he kept throughout his fights. He had unending stamina, and he kept coming
and you could not stop him. He had great hand speed and an iron chin. He was a
whirlwind in action from the moment the opening bell rang. He could wear down
any opponent given enough rounds. He sapped the energy out of his foes and
battered them mercilessly from all directions. He was a ruthless master of
infighting and was not adverse to using dirty tactics. Greb stayed in shaped by
fighting often averaging about 22 fights a year, and in 1919 fought 45 times. At
his peak he weighed between 158 and 165 pounds at 5 ft. 8in., and he often
fought men who outweighed him by as much as 40 to 80 pounds. Many consider Greb
as greatest middleweight champion ever.
Historian
Eric Jorgensen stated, “Greb may have been the greatest fighter,
pound-for-pound, who ever lived. Certainly, he was among the top 2 or 3. He
combined the speed of Ray Robinson, the durability of Jim Jeffries, the stamina
of Henry Armstrong, and the unbridled ferocity of Stanley Ketchel with a will to
win unsurpassed in the annals of sport. At his peak, he was unbeatable,
defeating virtually every middleweight, light heavyweight and heavyweight of his
generation. A great, great fighter.”
Greb’s record is
virtually unbelievable. How many fighters can claim to have a record like that
of Harry Greb? He defeated 18 men who held, had held, or would hold world
championships, and this at a time when there were only 8 divisions in boxing and
one champion in each division. The 5 middleweight champions that Greb defeated
were Mike O’Dowd, George Chip, Al McCoy, Mickey Walker, Tiger Flowers and Johnny
Wilson from whom he won the title. He also defeated 4 middleweight title
claimants Eddie McGoorty, Frank Mantell, Jeff Smith and Bryan Downey. Greb
defeated 7 light heavyweight world champions, Mike McTigue, Jack Dillon,
Battling Levinsky, Tommy Loughran, Jimmy Slattery and Maxie Rosenbloom and one
future world heavyweight champion, Gene Tunney whom he fought five times. Count
‘em! 5+4+7+1=18 champions who lost to Greb. Remarkable!
To really understand the
era one should know that because of the “No Decision” rules that prevailed at
the time the champions were not always the best fighters, there were many
uncrowned champions during this period. There were so many great fighters that
Greb met and defeated more first tier boxers than any other champion in history.
He beat Mike Gibbons, considered by many ring historians among the top 10 all
time middleweights. He beat George "Ko" Brown who twice went 20 rounds with the
legendary Les Darcy. He defeated master boxer Tommy Gibbons, a light heavyweight
and a truly clever mobile fighter who could feint, jab, move and do it all. He
won a narrow verdict over Kid Norfolk who Jack Dempsey was accused of drawing
the color line against. He beat Charlie Weinert who went on to beat heavyweight
slugger Luis Firpo in a No Decision match. He also defeated heavyweights like
Bill "Ko" Brennan who fought Jack Dempsey for the world title. He decisively
beat Brennan in every one of their meetings to the point where it can be argued
that he didn't lose a single round. Greb annihilated former "white heavyweight
champion" Ed Gunboat Smith knocking him out in the first round. Greb decisioned
Billy Miske who a year later would fight Dempsey for the heavyweight title. Greb
beat Willie Meehan who once won a 4-round decision over Dempsey. Greb also beat
several of Dempsey's favorite sparring partners like Larry Williams and Chief
Clay Turner. Reigning light heavyweight champion Georges Carpentier avoided Greb
like the plague. Tex Rickard was very eager to match Greb and Carpentier and
even offered Carpentier a huge purse to meet Greb for the light heavyweight
championship but he refused.
Whenever great fighters
of his era discussed Greb they mentioned three outstanding qualities that
qualify him as the greatest swarming fighter of history. First of these was his
great speed. Second of these was the relentless pace he set by the sheer volume
of punches that he threw. And lastly was his impregnable chin, which is an
essential ingredient to the successful swarming fighter.
Heavyweight champion Jack
Dempsey said that Greb was “The fastest fighter I ever saw. Hell. Greb is faster
than (lightweight champion) Benny Leonard.” In 1920 Greb, who was in training
for Billy Miske, sparred Dempsey a few rounds. The sparring sessions were so
good that thousands of fans showed up just to watch. According to eyewitnesses
Greb “slapped the crouching heavyweight champion around, and bounced away before
Dempsey could do more than cock a punch.” Jack Kearns, Dempsey’s manager, ran
Greb out of camp. There was much talk of a Dempsey-Greb match for the
heavyweight championship, but it never came off. It seems Jack Kearns was
unwilling to take the chance.
Fighting Greb was like
fighting a man with eight arms. “He was never in one spot for more than half a
second,” said Gene Tunney, “All my punches were aimed and timed properly but
they always wound up hitting empty air. He'd jump in and out, slamming me with a
left and whirling me around with his right or the other way around. My arms were
plastered with leather and although I jabbed, hooked and crossed, it was like
fighting an octopus.”
Greb would swarm over his
opponents with his blazing fast hands while throwing punches from all angles.
Veteran fight manager Dan Morgan said, “He threw so many punches that the breeze
from his misses gave opponents pneumonia. He tossed leather from all directions
in fusillades, barrages, salvo’s, and volleys. Naturally being so fast and
throwing so many punches he was not a knocker-outer. To shoot a real shock punch
a fighter must get set, be more or less stationary for a fraction of a second.
Greb was never still in the ring, so most of his knockouts were of the TKO
variety.”
Greb threw so many
punches, from so many angles and for so many hits that he would have drove
today’s “punch stat” counters crazy. One of his opponent’s Pat Walsh said after
their fight, “I thought somebody had opened up the ceiling and dumped a carload
of boxing gloves on me.”
Harry had the proven
tough chin needed to absorb the heavy punch of much larger men. In around 300
professional fights, which included dozens of bouts against heavyweights, he was
stopped only twice, once in his first year of fighting, and once when he broke
his forearm throwing a punch at Kid Graves.
Greb’s
most famous victory is his win against Gene Tunney for the American light
heavyweight title. Greb handed Tunney the only official defeat of his career in
their first meeting. The May 24, 1922 NY Times reported, “Greb, a human
perpetual motion machine if there ever was one received the decision of the
judges Tommy Shortem and Eddie Hurley and Referee Billy McPartland.” The Times
reported, “Tunney tried with every ounce of strength and every trick of the
trade to offset the speed and remarkable ability of his rival. But the defending
champion could find no defense for the rain of blows which met him at every
turn.”
Grantland Rice, one of
the top sportswriters of the time wrote, “Harry handled Gene like a butcher
hammering a Swiss steak. How Gene survived 15 rounds I will never know.” Tunney
himself said, “Greb gave me a terrible whipping. My jaw was swollen from the
right temple down the cheek, along the chin and part way up the other side. The
referee, the ring itself, was full of my blood. If boxing was afflicted with the
commission doctors that we have now, the first fight probably would have been
stopped and no one would have heard of me today.”
Greb and Tunney fought 4
more times and they were all good competitive closely contested fights and one
must remember that Tunney was the naturally bigger fighter in all of these
contests. Their second fight was highly controversial. Tunney won the decision
in their rematch which many called the worst decision in New York history. Some
sportswriters at the time declared that it called for an investigation. William
Muldoon, NY State Athletic Commissioner, said in the Feb 24, 1923 NY Times
“The verdict was unjust” and “(Muldoon) declares that Pittsburgh boxer (Greb)
should have received decision.”
According to historian
Steve Compton Gene Tunney won the the rubbermatch fair and square. The fourth
bout in Cleveland was cast for Greb by 2 of 3 Cleveland papers with the third
calling it a draw, and the fifth bout went to Tunney.
One of Greb’s greatest fights was his victory over welterweight and future
middleweight champion Mickey Walker at the Polo Grounds in New York in 1925.
Walker, himself an all time pound for pound great said in Peter Heller’s In
This Corner, “Harry Greb was the greatest fighter I ever fought. He was one
of the greatest that ever stepped in the ring.” The July 3, NY Times
reported, “Greb retained his world middleweight title when he battered his way
to the decision…in as savage and furious a ring encounter as either boxer has
ever experienced.” The Times continued, “Walker left the ring badly used
up. He had a split lip, a bruised and battered nose, and a cut under his right
eye which was puffed and almost closed. Greb was unmarked, although he absorbed
punishing blows to the body through every round.” The entire bout was fought at
an extremely fast pace. Walker started off well in the early rounds but by the
6th Greb was firmly in charge. There was seesaw action in the mid to late
rounds. The champion finished strongly taking the final "championship" rounds,
nearly knocking Walker out in the 14th.
What is even more amazing
is the fact that Greb fought most of these great fights while blind in one eye.
He suffered a detached retina after being thumbed in his 1921 fight against Kid
Norfolk. For five years he fought half blind.
When he finally lost the
title to Tiger Flowers the split decision was a controversial one. The rematch
was even more controversial. When Joe Humphreys announced Flowers as the winner
by split decision with the judges, but not the referee, voting for him, the fans
stormed the ring, littering it with bottles, hats, paper and everything they
could find to throw in protest. Jim Crowley, the referee, walked over to Greb
saying “Tough, Harry, a tough one to lose. It was your fight.” Gene Tunney who
watched the affair said, “Harry won by a substantial margin. It was an unjust
decision.” William Muldoon also said Greb had won, adding, “but the decision
will stand. If we (The New York Athletic Commission) reversed it, the Negro
people might think they were being discriminated against.”
Two months later Greb
died. He was injured in an automobile accident and complained of dizziness and
breathing difficulty. He would later die on the operating table as he tried to
get his nose repaired so he could breathe better.
Harry Greb was the
ultimate aggressive swarming style fighter, only Henry Armstrong can compare to
him in terms of the volumes of punches he threw and the killing pace that he
set. Not even Armstrong can compare to Greb in terms of his speed,
maneuverability and durability. Greb’s perpetual motion fighting made him as
dominant as any fighter who ever lived and his awesome record is virtually
unmatched in the annals of boxing history.
Thanks to historian Steve
Compton who is researching a book on Harry Greb for several contributions made
to this article.
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